Should Catalonia become independent?

Catalonia became independent on the 27 October 2017. 90% of Catalonian’s who voted, voted to be independent.BUT, only 42% of Catalonian’s voted!!! It is fair enough if Catalonia wanted to leave as Catalonia is the richest region in Spain, Madrid takes most of Catalonia’s money. This is obviously not fair as its their money so its their property. Catalonians have their own language, and think of themselves Catalonians first, Spanish next. So… what do you think?

Should they leave or not………

 

FemenistUnicornNo.1

60 Comments

  1. Newbury Park Primary School Newbury Park Primary School

    Oops. I mean FeministUnicornNo.1

    FeministUnicornNo.1

  2. Crampton Primary School Crampton Primary School

    I think they should become independent because they will go as far as they need to ,to protect their culture .Their culture is what makes them them, without their cultures ,that makes them unique, they are just another boring country .
    Magicalbunny3816

  3. In my opinion within themselves they already act as a functioning society within themselves; they have their own culture, language and traditions including there own national holidays such as national catalonia day. There inside themselves already act as a separate country, including their own government. The only difference is that they don’t have their own economy and vote in spanish elections. Therefore they should be independent as they already act as though they are however I think it might be hard for them to form a stable economy and that would be a massive can from their current circumstances and could irritate and cause friction between the people who voted to stay and those who voted to leave but also between the government if they are not able to sustain there current economic situation.

    ToBeFrank

    • Thanks for your comment, ToBeFrank,

      This is a brilliant response to this issue’s question. You’ve been open-minded and sceptical about your own opinion and backed up your answers with reasons and facts. Well done!

      Can you think of any other regions or countries that are in a similar position?

      • I think that even within our own country we have a region in a similar position in our case Scotland. Scotland last had its referendum in 2014; with a result of 55.3% no and 44.7% yes therefore they didn’t leave. However they had a much higher turn out at 84.6% being the highest recorded for an election or referendum in the United Kingdom since the introduction of universal suffrage (the right of almost all adults to vote in political elections). This was another contributing factor to the fact that Theresa May said the UK ‘do not recognise’ the Catalan parliament’s declaration of independence. Due to the fact that if she had recognised Catalonia, it would stir up rebellion and desire for a second referendum within Scotland.

        ToBeFrank

  4. Chiltern Way Academy Chiltern Way Academy

    I think that Catalonia should be their own country because they want to be their own country and live freely on there own. To make there country respected. For example Zimbabwe was controlled by Britain and they wanted to be there own country to make people respect their culture.

    OJ Chiltern Way Academy

  5. High Halstow Primary School High Halstow Primary School

    Hi it’s piggy 26
    I think Catalonia should be independent because they can have there own guvoment again and will have thier own contrite and it’s own rules.It was not fair as only 42% of Catalonia people only turned up to vote and 92% want to leave. But because not even harf on Catalonia people turned up or wanted to vote they can’t leave. However 8% want to stay because they like the rule . I think Catalonia should be independent.

    • Hi Piggy26,
      Well done for being curious and thinking about the referendum results. You’ve used your knowledge to back up your opinion which shows great reasoning. You’ve mentioned here that only 42% of people turned out to vote. How can you know that the other 58% want to leave Spain?

  6. St Peter's Primary School St Peter's Primary School

    I think Catalonia should be independent because they want to rule their own country. Spain is stopping them to do that and this has been going on for ages. Mabey, Spain should just let Catalonia go or else this will go on for more and more years.

  7. St Peter's Primary School St Peter's Primary School

    Don’t worry about what Spain thinks were on team catalan

    DaisyDare150

  8. High Halstow Primary School High Halstow Primary School

    Yes.Because in previous years Catalonia used to be its own little country but now they want to leave Spain.But the Spanish government is not letting them leave ,we think that Catalonia has their own rights so if they want to leave they can!This is the right choice as they were an independent country before we think they still can be, also Catalonia even has their own language that 11.5 million people speak in Catalonia! Catalonia is also a rather big part of Spain which shows it can be a proper independent country.Some 1.5 million people take part in Catalonias annual independence rally in Barcelona which means lots of Catalonia wants to be independent.
    by Lemur 172.
    by Moustaehe power 460.

    • Wow, High Halstow I’m so impressed by your research here! Well done, this shows great curiosity. What are some reasons that mean Catalonia should stay part of Spain?

  9. Ravenscroft Primary School Ravenscroft Primary School

    In my opinion I think Catalonia should be independent because the Spanish government is not giving Catalonia their rights. I think this because Catalonia is a small country with one of the biggest cities and a country should have the freedom to do whatever they want. I think the Spanish government is unfair because Scotland got to vote for independence why can`t Catalonia? I don`t think the Spanish government needed to bring the police in they could have just brought the police in to calm everything down. Do you think the Spanish government should have enforced that law in the first place?

    PogbaRaven#6

  10. St Peter's Primary School St Peter's Primary School

    I think that Catalonia should become independent because they have a human right to decide. Also Spain just want the money because Barcelona is in Catalonia and they have most of the money. The world is not all about the money and they just be happy with what they have got! If they keep arguing this will go on for ever and this might (not a definite but maybe) effect the UK.
    Please comment if you agree!
    Gossip Girl!
    🙂

  11. St Peter's Primary School St Peter's Primary School

    I think that they should seperate from Spain because Spain has taken away so many laws and now Catalonia has not got its own government, the only reason Spain wants Catalonia to say is for the money.

    Narwhal11

  12. Ravenscroft Primary School Ravenscroft Primary School

    In my opinion Catalonia should be independent because Spain Takes money from the wealthiest parts of Catalonia and people ‘break the Spanish law’ by speaking their own language. The Catalans were not allowed to vote legally for independence, I think this is unfair because Catalan was once a free independent country. And if they want to be out of Spain they can because they have RIGHTS.

    Anime.raven#619$

  13. St Peter's Primary School St Peter's Primary School

    I think Catalonia should be independent if you are on team catalan don’t worry about what Spain thinks!

    unicorncat

  14. St Peter's Primary School St Peter's Primary School

    I personally think Catalonia shouldn’t leave because they hold Barcelona and Barcelona makes most of the money that goes through Spain, because they have all the football matches and they have tourists visiting and they make lots of money out of that. Also Spain doesn’t want Catalonia to leave because then Spain wouldn’t have as much money as they did because Catalonia had left, but I do also think that Catalonia should have the ability to be independent if they want to, because they are obviously their own country so it’s really is down to the vote of Catalonia.

    Unicornicream106

    • Thanks for your comment, Unicornicream106! I’m impressed by your open-mindedness here. Well done. What are some reasons why Catalonia should leave Spain?

  15. Ravenscroft Primary School Ravenscroft Primary School

    I think Catalonia should leave because they have their own opinion on it and Spain has taken some of Catalonia’s land that’s why Catalonia is a part of Spain. I also think that since the Catalonia is like the richest region the Spanish people won’t agree because the Spanish people will loss there money since the Money was from Catalonia so Spain will become more poorer and they can’t control their wishes and I can’t believe that the Spanish government actually lets them do a vote and since they can’t do anything. Catalonia Leave Spain since you can get your own land with your own money. That is my opinion.

    JadenYukiRaven

  16. Ravenscroft Primary School Ravenscroft Primary School

    My Opinion if Catalonia should leave Spain
    In my opinion Catalonia should be independent because the Spanish government has been unfair because the Catalonian people have their own language and culture. If Catalonia is richer than Spain they should be able to leave Spain. Scotland was able to vote so why can’t Catalonian be independent? The Catalans did an “illegal” vote but why was it” illegal?”

    Yami#123

  17. St Peter's Primary School St Peter's Primary School

    You have not put that much but I have to say you are getting the point of it

    not bad rainbow shoot

  18. Ravenscroft Primary School Ravenscroft Primary School

    In my opinion Catalonia should independent because Spain is taking a lot of their money so that’s not fair. Catalonia has some different things than Spain. Even their ‘illegal’ vote shouldn’t have got that serious just because it ‘wasn’t right’. The police started hitting the people who voted for Catalonia to be an independent country and shutting the place down. They need their rights and they need their opinion. Not just the Spanish government’s opinion it’s Catalonia’s opinion.

    By:RavenTheDonut

  19. St Peter's Primary School St Peter's Primary School

    I think that Catalonia shouldn’t stay. Spain only wants to keep Catalonia because, Catalonia holds Barcelona witch gives them most of there money. Catalonia should have there own independence and choose if they are going to stay in Spain, and they also shouldn’t stay because Spain has been very bad to them through the years. Spain might not have enough money if Catalonia leaves but it’s Catalonia choice to stay or leave. Barcelona is very important to Spain, and i think it is fair for them to want to keep Catalonia but really if Catalonia doesn’t want to stay Spain can’t stop them because they are big enough anyway and Catalonia has there own right to make there own decisions so they should make there own country.

    SafariCat109

    • Thanks for your comment, SafariCat109!
      Can you think of any reasons why Spain might want Catalonia to stay part of the country that aren’t to do with money?

  20. St Peter's Primary School St Peter's Primary School

    I agree with you again
    rainbow shoot
    DaisyDare150

  21. St Peter's Primary School St Peter's Primary School

    I think GOSSIP GIRL is right

    SLEEPY7

  22. St Peter's Primary School St Peter's Primary School

    FeministUnicornNo.1, I think Catalonia should break free from Spain because it should be able to have it’s own rights if it wants to, even though it has Barcelona in it. Plus, Spain is being horrible to them!

    Splasher8

  23. Ravenscroft Primary School Ravenscroft Primary School

    Catalonia, in my opinion, SHOULD be a separate country because it has an entirely different culture and language. The Spanish government has not been giving the people that live in Catalonia a choice because the made the independence vote illegal. The Spanish government literally forced them to not have their rights. Also, the police arrested many people and even started BEATING them. The police should have been the people who are arrested because they’ve been beating the voters. Beating is too harsh. Anyways back to the point, the Spanish government haven’t been giving the freedom to the people who live in Catalonia. Votes shouldn’t be illegal unless it’s very major (for example, if it’s about killing or starting war it should be illegal). So my point is that Catalonia should be a separate country.

    -iiMythicalRavenX

  24. St Peter's Primary School St Peter's Primary School

    Yeah Paws9 I totally agree with you he is so selfish he doesn’t care about the country he only cares about the money!

    Unicornicecream106

  25. St Peter's Primary School St Peter's Primary School

    I think they shouldnt because what would happen to Barcelona football club.

    dab force11

  26. St Peter's Primary School St Peter's Primary School

    I agree with you Splasher8 they should be able to have there own rights because they are there own country and nobody should be able to stop them.

    Unicornicecream106

  27. St Peter's Primary School St Peter's Primary School

    I think Catalonia should get what they wont and not be
    controlled by other people, in that country people should respect other people.

  28. St Peter's Primary School St Peter's Primary School

    Dabforce11 you are so right yeah what will happen to them!?!!
    (the Barcelona footy club)

    Unicornicecream106

  29. Arbours Primary Academy Arbours Primary Academy

    Hello everybody I believe that Catalonia should make factories in other places in Spain and then the profit would be 80% to parts in Spain and 20% to Catalonia it would generate a lot of money for Parts in Spain and would not make a very big difference to Catalonia as they are a very affluent place
    By R.R

    • Thanks for your comment, R.R,

      This is a really interesting idea and shows you’ve been curious and open-minded about the issue. Well done. I’d like you to put this idea into a post, so you can start a new discussion with other Burnet News Club members. Ask your teacher if you need help with this.

  30. Arbours Primary Academy Arbours Primary Academy

    It Depends,

    They could leave because they ate giving something (money) and Spain isn’t giving anything to Catalonia , which means Catalonia is losing and Spain is getting.

    On the other hand , Spain could give Catalonia something (power,more land, etc.) to them , so they can make a fair deal.

    Thats all,
    Skelebones

  31. Arbours Primary Academy Arbours Primary Academy

    Hi, arbours pupil here.
    For the following reason i agree that catalonia should be independent because they have their own language and culture.
    Spain still want catalonia to stay in spain, but catalonia does not agree

    by a arbours pupil

  32. High Halstow Primary School High Halstow Primary School

    Piggy 26
    I think Catalonia should be independent because they used to have there own government and all there own rules. Also it is not fair that only because 42% only turned up to vote also 92% want to leave but only 8% wants to Spair . So I think Catalonia should be independent!!!!!!!!!

  33. Ben Jonson Primary School Ben Jonson Primary School

    In my opinion Catalonia voted for independence so they should get independence because then they can trade how they can and their won’t be any restrictions or rules. Also they won’t be controlled by other countries and their cultures , traditions and language won’t be forbidden and they will be free
    By diamond giraffe

    • Hi Diamond Giraffe. Well done for giving reasons for your point of view. Why are culture and traditions important? And do you think these will totally disappear if Catalonia has to remain with Spain? Olivia

  34. I think yes , because then they wont be ruled by Spain and if there independent they can speak there language and have independence after years of low independence!

    Rainbowunicorn

  35. St Saviour's & St Olave's School St Saviour's & St Olave's School

    In my opinion i think that they should be independent because they should be able to make their own choices and trade how they want to trade. Also Catalonia don’t want to be controlled .

  36. St Saviour's & St Olave's School St Saviour's & St Olave's School

    I think that the Catalonia should be an independent county because they would be able to make their own decisions and be free to have a right for any thing they would like to do

  37. St Saviour's & St Olave's School St Saviour's & St Olave's School

    i think that Catalonia should be independent because they should have the right to make there own decisions and get there money which they are intitle to

  38. St Saviour's & St Olave's School St Saviour's & St Olave's School

    IT’s wouldn’t be fair if Spain made decision for Catalonia .

  39. I think Catalonia should be independant because Spain are bossing them about

    I think Catalonia should be independent because Spain are bossing them about.

  40. i think that catalonia should be independant because they have there right to make there own thoughts by themselfs.
    puglover101

  41. Oasis Academy Don Valley Oasis Academy Don Valley

    I think that Catalonia has right to be independent because they have right to choose they own rules and thoughts themselves so i’m on Catalonias side

    ACTIVEGYMNAST

  42. Hornsey School for Girls Hornsey School for Girls

    I think Catalonia should leave and get their independence since they own most of the money, have their own language an much more. Catalonia is like a different country to Spain
    @purplestars256

  43. St Peter's Primary School St Peter's Primary School

    I think catalonia should be independent OK

    DaisyDare 150

  44. St Peter's Primary School St Peter's Primary School

    I agree with you unicorncat……but don’t you think you could explain it more

    DaisyDare150

  45. St Peter's Primary School St Peter's Primary School

    Catalonia should be independent and do what they want to do shouldn’t they really?

    DaisyDare150

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